Faith - Virtue or Vice?
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Theists absolutely refuse to accept the logic and
reason inherent in dismissing all imaginary beings.

Theists see merit in picking one or a few or quite
a large number of imaginary beings and hanging
onto belief in that one or a few or quite a large
number for dear life, despite the logical impossibility
of placing their choice(s) in any different invisible
realm than any of the alternative imaginary beings,
and despite the simple lack of one iota of evidence
for there being any imaginary beings present in any
location other than the human brain.

Speaking of faith as commonly used to refer to the
blind faith of the imaginary being believers, said faith
requiring no evidence and ready to dismiss all evidence
contrary to their perception that their favorite imaginary
being(s) exist in reality somewhere/somehow ...

"Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was

"FAITH - An attitude fostered by individuals in high
places in order to ensure the subservience of those in
their charge." -Anonymous

"Faith is to the human what sand is to the ostrich."

"Faith is deciding to allow yourself to believe
something your intellect would otherwise cause
you to reject -- otherwise there's no need for faith."

"Although it is said that faith can move mountains,
experience has shown that dynamite works better."

"Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join
hands every Sunday, singing, yes, gravity is real! I will
have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that
what goes up, up, up must come down, down, down.
Amen!' If they did, we would think they were pretty
insecure about it."
-Ex-preacher Dan Barker

"Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the
only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then
you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own
-Ex-preacher Dan Barker

"I do not believe in God. My mind finds no grounds
on which to build up a reasonable faith. My heart
revolts against the spectre of an Almighty Indifference
to the pain of sentient beings.

My conscience rebels against the injustice, the cruelty,
the inequality, which surround me on every side. But
I believe in Man. In man's redeeming power; in man's
remolding energy; in man's approaching triumph,
through knowledge, love and work."
- Annie Besant (1847-1933)

"As an unbeliever, I ask leave to plead that humanity
has been a real gainer from scepticism, and that the
gradual and growing rejection of Christianity - like
the rejection of the faiths which preceded it - has in
fact added, and will add, to man's happiness and
-Charles Bradlaugh, "Humanity's Gain
from Unbelief," 1889

"A faith that cannot survive collision with the truth
is not worth many regrets."
-Arthur C. Clarke

"Another meme of the religious meme complex is
called faith. It means blind trust, in the absence of
evidence, even in the teeth of evidence. The story
of Doubting Thomas is told, not so that we shall
admire Thomas, but so that we can admire the
other apostles in comparison. Thomas demanded

Nothing is more lethal for certain kinds of meme than
a tendency to look for evidence. The other apostles,
whose faith was so strong that they did not need
evidence, are held up to us as worthy of imitation.
The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation
by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging
rational inquiry."
-Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"Blind faith can justify anything. If a man believes in
a different god, or even if he uses a different ritual for
worshipping the same god, blind faith can decree that
he should die - on the cross, at the stake, skewered
on a Crusader's sword, shot in a Beirut street, or
blown up in a bar in Belfast.

Memes for blind faith have their own ruthless ways
of propagating themselves. This is true of patriotic
and political as well as religious blind faith."
-Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"If you have a faith, it is statistically overwhelmingly
likely that it is the same faith as your parents and
grandparents had. No doubt soaring cathedrals,
stirring music, moving stories and parables, help
a bit. But by far the most important variable
determining your religion is the accident of birth.

The convictions that you so passionately believe
would have been a completely different, and largely
contradictory, set of convictions, if only you had
happened to be born in a different place.

Epidemiology, not evidence."
-Richard Dawkins

"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because
of, the lack of evidence."
-Richard Dawkins

"Scientific beliefs are supported by evidence, and
they get results. Myths and faiths are not and do
-Richard Dawkins, "River Out of Eden"

"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of
the universe nor immovable, but moves even with
a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically
and theologically false, and at the least an error of
-Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei

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You must have an open mind to search for the truth
and belief/faith in God (any God) generally goes hand
in hand with a closed mind.

The Deistic God of nothingness and the Pantheistic
God of all are generally of little interest to atheists as
such things impart no harm or threat or demands on
the human species other than the interpretations of
humans who hold to those concepts which are, for
some reason or other, of value to some individuals.

Atheism is not a faith. Trust me on that one. If a god
popped up tomorrow, atheists would be more than
happy to say 'yep, that's a god', provided the god was
willing and able to provide evidence that it was a god.

Of course, being a god, evidence shouldn't be that
hard to come by. Atheists simply lack belief in all
gods that have been imagined by humans to be real
and which have not revealed themselves in any
evidentiary way.

Coincidentally, that includes every single god for none
of them have shown themselves to be anything more
than imaginary beings cooked up by humans across
the globe.