The only way to stop disbelief?
(Top Posts - Distance From Belief
in theism - 030105)

To a poster who offered ...
> Death to the atheism meme!

I responded as follows:

The only way to stop disbelief is to provide
evidence your God actually exists as some-
thing other than an imaginary being -or- to do
your religion in the style of a theocracy which
demands worship or else. Europe tried that.
America tried that in some places before the
Revolution. Iran and some other Arab states
are trying that.

What do you get when you force people to
adopt religion? Well, aside from imprisoning
people, ending freedom of speech, making
life on earth be based on ancient concepts
of harm to humans who don't dance with reli-
gion, what you get is religion seeping into
every aspect of society in a kind of 'hell on
earth' kind of way.

Why? The fundamental religious documents
are loaded with threats and anti-humanism, and
the more that mindset dominates a society, the
more the likelihood that the hideous anti-human-
ism that religions refuse to remove for fear that
-if- people don't fear disbelief they just might
not fill the religious coffers with money and they
might stop brainwashing their children into reli-
gion, that those aspects will show themselves
throughout society.

You see, religion is loaded with anti-humanism,
and you can't force people to be religious with-
out stripping them of their freedom and killing
off the 1st amendment and defying the Consti-
tution (in the case of the U.S.) ...

Note the absence of any mention of any deity, god,
supreme being, creator, supernatural force, or other
object of religious pontification in the following:

"Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he
shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do
solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute
the Office of President of the United States, and will
to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend
the Constitution of the United States."

Note the absence of any affirmation of any deity, god,
supreme being, creator, supernatural force, or any
other object of religious pontification in the Constitution,
with one exception -- "Year of our Lord one thousand
seven hundred and Eighty seven"

Point in fact, note the following specific exclusion of
a religious requirement:

"no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualifi-
cation to any Office or public Trust under the United

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We the People of the United States, in Order
to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defence, promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves
and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United States of America.


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Also note the wording of the 1st amendment to
the Constitution:


Congress shall make no law respecting an estab-
lishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a
redress of grievances.

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