Are pleasant immortality promises
really all that 'good'?
(Top Posts - Distance From Belief
in theism - 050207)

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Someone says you'll get 72 virgins along-
side a river of wine -if- you blow yourself
up for Allah, and kill scores of men, women,
children and even babies who either don't
follow Allah or who have some shortcomings
in their following of Allah.

Good?

No.

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Someone says God condemns disbelief,
and tosses disbelievers into oblivion -or-
judges them and tosses them into a lake
of fire for short-term torment prior to ever-
lasting death -or- simply tortures them for-
ever. To avoid that and get the pleasant
immortality that we know you want, believe
God sent his only son to be tortured on a
cross, that only son dying and spending
3 days in hell and rising from the dead.

Good?

No.

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In a previous post, I referenced heaven
as "The Ultimate Seduction", but when
you toss in the religious heaven seduc-
tions with their ally, religious threats, fear
is clearly seen as residing at the core of
the religious heaven/hell routine, fear
of death, fear of torment, fear of oblivion.

Good?

No.

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Religious faith, both "The Ultimate Seduc-
tion" -and- "The Ultimate Threat".

Good?

No.

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God, said by religions to eliminate or tor-
ture all who fail to believe or act in the 'right'
way, forever, no forgiveness or redemption
possible, ever.

Good?

No.

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Certainly, religions, at least in the west,
generally tend to focus on "The Ultimate
Seduction", almost as if they're ashamed
of their "Ultimate Threat". However, many
religions, especially 'fundie' ones, tend
to promote the "Ultimate Threat" aspect
of their ancient myths.

The dominant theme of religions remains
"believe -or- else", and whether they cause
horrors to befall humans in this life, or teach/
believe that oblivion or horrors will befall
humans in an afterlife, their central focus
is on ...

... US (the 'right' believers) versus ...

... THEM (disbelievers, doubters, and
those who believe in the 'wrong' way,
or who believe in the 'wrong' religion,
or who believe in the 'wrong' God).

Good?

No.

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