Reasoning your way to no god, no christ
(Top Posts - Distance From Belief
in christianity - 121800)

Wanting some godman to exist doesn't illegitimatize
a refutation of same.

It is quite logical to assess the evidence and
make a determination as to a miracle performing
son of god called Jesus. The point of the position
of Jesus as myth is that the Catholic Jesus godman
and the historical Jesus godman are demonstrably
mythical. No godman, no savior, no salvation, no
christ as man, no condemnation from spirits or
godmen or demons, those logical conclusions are
ascertainable based on detailed study of the
sources and origins of the new testamyth and old
testamyth, as well as based on a thorough study
of the workings of our natural world.

Which is relevant because if we cannot demonstrate
to the satisfaction of the obstinate that God is an
imaginary being whooped up by clueless humans
in a day and age when the only explanation for our
existence was apart from naturalism, then we're left
with the following ...

To live your life in fear of imaginary beings is to
enter the arena called "the black hole of non-falsi-
fiable nothings" - that's right, within that black hole
can be constructed any demons, spirits, holy enti-
ties, deities, pink elephants, little invisible pink furry
friends, extraterrestrial abductors, ghosts, headless
horsemen, etc...

Clue - the size/power of your attribution from
within the "black hole of non-falsifiable nothings"
does not lend any weight as to its validatable
impact on reality. For someone to suggest that
you must follow _____ -or- God -or- any other
all powerful _____ -or- be damned is nothing
short of a slap in the face of the integrity of your
humanity/freedom from blind threat/freedom
to choose to live your life based on the world
of the rational, a natural world with nary a
clue that the "black hole of non-falsifiable
nothings" contains anything non-imaginary.

Of note, you cannot go into the "black hole of
non-falsifiable nothings" and return to tell the
tale, so if there's anything in there of value to
the living, it must miraculously escape its
imaginary realm and show itself in our world
in order to justify folks following and fearing it.
Otherwise, it's nothing more than a manifestation
of the fear of evolved apes into which anything
can be promised/threatened and only the impact
on the real world can be measured.

As you well know, following the imaginary beings
known as God, with all the trappings attached
thereto, have caused substantial anti-humanism
in this world we all know and share. To that
extent alone, you would be well-advised to turn
your back on such ancient manipulations of fear.

Put another way, if a witch doctor threatens you
with a voodoo doll, do you 1) fear that magic will
harm you, 2) ponder why the witch doctor is
threatening you, or 3) feel that since you cannot
rule out the impact of voodoo, you must follow
the witch doctor's admonitions as if they were
real?

You probably treat the witch doctor's threats as
absurd anti-human insults, superstitions, and
nonsense (while watching your back, 'cause hey,
if the witch doctor is threatening you with
voodoo, who knows what he's up to as for as
really causing you harm) ...

See the difference between reality and imaginary,
here?

As for Jesus Christ ...

QUICK ASSEMBLY

Putting the Jesus Puzzle Together in 12 Easy Pieces,
by Earl Doherty:

Piece No. 1: A CONSPIRACY
OF SILENCE
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle1.htm

Piece No. 2: A MUTE RECORD
WORLD WIDE
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle2.htm

Piece No. 3: REVEALING THE
SECRET OF CHRIST
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle3.htm

Piece No. 4: A SACRIFICE IN
THE SPIRITUAL REALM
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle4.htm

Piece No. 5: SALVATION IN
A LAYERED UNIVERSE
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle5.htm

Piece No. 6: A WORLD OF
SAVIOR DEITIES
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle6.htm

Piece No. 7: THE INTERMEDIARY
SON
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle7.htm

Piece No. 8: A SINGLE STORY
OF JESUS
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle8.htm

Piece No. 9: THE GOSPELS AS
(FICTIONAL) "MIDRASH"
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle9.htm

Piece No. 10: THE COMMUNITY
OF "Q"
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle10.htm

Piece No. 11: A RIOTOUS
DIVERSITY
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle11.htm

Piece No. 12: JESUS BECOMES
HISTORY
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle12.htm

Conclusion: THE ASSEMBLED
PUZZLE
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/puzzle13.htm
Excerpt: "... The pieces of the Jesus Puzzle will not
fit together except by abandoning any expectation
of encountering an historical, human face. ... I hope,
through the cumulative analysis on this site, to lead
the open-minded reader to the same conclusion:
that there was no historical Jesus."